How Long Does It Take To Learn Clarinet
#i 
Posted 14 September 2009 - xi:06
How long does it take from get-go to learn the clarinet before you can put it in your oral fissure and KNOW y'all will get a lovely audio out of information technology? I started learning again about 7 months ago and am now well on the way towards grade 4, but I still often struggle to become the right audio - or sometimes fifty-fifty any sound - out of it. Subsequently trying several mouthpices in the VanDoren range I settled on an M30 so I don't think I can blame the mouthpiece. I exercise know yet that the reed can make all the divergence, then I am being more choosy and discarding the poorer ones.
A few weeks ago I attended a 5 day clarinet course led past the brilliant David Campbell, and I couldn't assist notice that whenever David played - or indeed whatever of the advanced pupils played - that lovely sounds were Always produced. I'g so jealous!
#ii
Posted 14 September 2009 - 11:34
From a sax player'due south perspective I tin can say that it doesn't just happen. You lot have to piece of work specifically on developing a good tone and on agreement how the differences yous make with you embouchure, throat position, tongue position etc change the sound that is produced.
Of course as you progress your sound should improve just because of extra practice you're doing, just to get a lovely sound consistently you lot really take to work for that particular objective.
#iii
Posted 14 September 2009 - 11:59
Exercise you accept a instructor?
A skillful teacher would be encouraging good tone production from the start.
Equally TSax says you do need to work on it just also to endeavour to aim for the all-time sound you can all the time.
Also if you lot are aware y'all volition exist moving the goalposts for yourself all the time then sometimes it seems as though you are going backwards when you are really progressing.
#iv
Posted xiv September 2009 - 12:51
My instructor told me that if you tin can recognise a lovely sound and if you have the want to make a lovely sound then you will get it eventually with work considering your encephalon will always be enlightened of the sound you are aiming for and you will automatically make the necessary adjustments.
I don't know how long it takes but I tin assure yous that after only 7 months I was deffinitely still making a dreadful sound (My family would say that after 10 years, I yet am).
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Posted 14 September 2009 - twenty:52
QUOTE(oldromola @ Sep fourteen 2009, 12:06 PM) 
How long does information technology accept from beginning to learn the clarinet before you tin can put it in your mouth and KNOW yous will get a lovely sound out of information technology? I started learning once more about 7 months ago and am now well on the fashion towards class 4, but I nonetheless often struggle to get the right sound - or sometimes even whatever audio - out of it. After trying several mouthpices in the VanDoren range I settled on an M30 so I don't think I tin can arraign the mouthpiece. I do know yet that the reed can make all the difference, and so I am being more choosy and discarding the poorer ones.
The sound I made when I did my G4 test was so displeasing to the examiner that he only gave me a scraped pass, and I'd got a high merit at G3. Most everything I was marked downward on was to do with tone - it'due south obviously a lot more important at G4 than at G3. Anyhow afterward that, my main priority with my new teacher was to concentrate on my tone. This meant, amid other things, playing really piece of cake pieces so that I was concentrating on the sound and didn't take to think about the fingerings or the rhythm. Tempting as information technology is to proceed learning new notes... as I've been told ever since I start started learning, the notes are the to the lowest degree important part. I know you don't need to worry near rhythm with being at such a loftier level on other instruments, only if you had a clarinet teacher, I'one thousand sure south/he would be trying to encourage you to play piece of cake pieces with a good audio, rather than trying to larn notes in a higher place the annals which your embouchure, breathing and clarinet experience aren't yet ready for.
But don't have my word for it because as I said, I'grand only a G4 pupil. TSax on the other hand really knows what she's talking well-nigh. Although she plays sax rather than clarinet, the result of tone is a common ane to both instruments and I know from the three years I've spent reading her posts on the subject, that tone quality is something which she has spent a lot of time improving. As she's said, it doesn't come up naturally, information technology has to exist worked on as a "projection". Do you practise "long annotation" practice?
(Having said all that, my tone improved considerably when I got a fabric ligature!)
#6
Posted 14 September 2009 - 22:02
I concur with all of the above. My clarinet instructor at schoolhouse always used to say that expert low notes produce practiced high notes and I call up this is absolutely true. I recall information technology is often worth playing pieces which nosotros may consider 'piece of cake' merely to concentrate on listening to the sound nosotros are producing.
I have had a very long break from playing (over 20 years) and take establish that as an developed, I am much more than aware of my tone and the audio I am looking for. I accept spent the final twelve months concentrating on improving my sound and I think it'south fair to say that the audio I am after tin can vary, depending on what kind of music I am playing. I try to treat my clarinet every bit a 'voice', trying to adjust my sound according to the type of 'song' I'm trying to 'sing' - if that makes any sense at all!!
1 other thing I will add, is that I think it is admittedly essential to warm up properly before attempting to play anything! Even just blowing air through the instrument and playing long notes will help you to produce a better sound when you outset to play. It is worth experimenting with volume likewise - for instance, is at that place a divergence in the quality of your tone when yous are playing loudly or softly etc. Do yous prefer your tone in the lower register or higher ones? What is your current 'optimum' range? Do you have music which you can play merely for the sheer enjoyment of listening to your tone within this range, without having to recall too much virtually fingerings etc?
It may besides be worth recording yourself - you may audio a lot improve than you remember you do and if you don't, you lot will have a improve thought of what to work on!
Hope this helps a bit and good luck! 
#7
Posted 15 September 2009 - 08:09
QUOTE(clarijo @ Sep xiv 2009, 11:02 PM)
I agree with all of the in a higher place. My clarinet teacher at school always used to say that good depression notes produce expert loftier notes and I think this is absolutely truthful.
Yep, they practise. Information technology'south very like shooting fish in a barrel to play low notes desperately, and think they are OK. The high notes then come along and take hold of you out. One reason why at the very least occasional lessons are a good idea...
#8
Posted 15 September 2009 - 08:39
QUOTE(clarijo @ Sep 14 2009, eleven:02 PM)
... I endeavour to treat my clarinet every bit a 'voice', trying to adjust my sound according to the type of 'vocal' I'chiliad trying to 'sing' - if that makes any sense at all!!
It makes perfect sense to me!
#ix
Posted xvi September 2009 - 09:19
Again, give thanks you all for your comments. I do indeed accept a teacher and, although I had simply occasionally lessons with her up to my course 3 exam, I am now having weekly lessons. In that location is naught like the prospect of a weekly lesson to concentrate the mind.
I am very lucky that such a practiced teacher lives within 30 minutes of me. She trained with Thea Rex at the RCM (at the same time as David Campbell) and later with John McCaw. Piano was her second instrument at the RCM so she is likewise an excellent accompanist. In the lessons she is demanding musically - quite rightly so - only she is besides very skilful technically and can sort out any fingering or tonal problems. I am kickoff to feel my playing is improving in leaps and bounds equally a event.
Should any of you alive in North Yorkshire and are thinking of starting the clarinet or changing your instructor, send me a PM and I shall be delighted to let yous take her contact details.
#10
Posted 16 September 2009 - 20:43
QUOTE(oldromola @ Sep sixteen 2009, 10:19 AM)
I am very lucky that such a skilful teacher lives inside 30 minutes of me. She trained with Thea King at the RCM (at the aforementioned time as David Campbell) and later with John McCaw. Piano was her second musical instrument at the RCM so she is also an splendid accompanist. In the lessons she is demanding musically - quite rightly so - but she is besides very adept technically and tin sort out any fingering or tonal issues. I am beginning to feel my playing is improving in leaps and bounds as a consequence.
Big names mentioned there : you are indeed lucky 
(and, by the mode, lucky y'all going to meet Alan Barnes, retrieve information technology's more than appropriate mentioning that here than on the other thread! )
#11
Posted 16 September 2009 - 20:52
Oooooh! Yes please tell us about Alan Barnes. Which other thread?
#12
Posted 16 September 2009 - 21:01
QUOTE(Clarimoo @ Sep 16 2009, 09:52 PM)
Oooooh! Yeah please tell us about Alan Barnes. Which other thread?
The other thread is in the teacher'due south forum, and only mentions him in passing : the thread is on a completely different topic.
Would love to know more than well-nigh the gig oldromola
#thirteen
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:03
and of form Alan consistently makes a lovely sound on clarinets and saxes.
Reminds me of a story I heard him tell - he was in a school doing some kind of workshop, demonstrating the different instruments, played a chip of the Simpsons, a bit of Pinkish Panther etc. At the end he asked if in that location were whatsoever questions - one little male child's paw shut up "Can you make a farting sound?!"
#xiv
Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:32
At that place shall exist a study on the Alan Barnes gig tomorrow. I take heard him twice before in this setting, and the start time he played an unforgettable version of 'Nuages' on clarinet. It was worth the price of the ticket for that one item alone.
#xv
Posted 18 September 2009 - 17:31
The Alan Barnes gig last night was, every bit you might await, terrific. I'g a bit short of time this evening so I shall do a write-up on information technology over the weekend. Lookout man out for a split thread in this forum.
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